No One Is Bullish Enough On The Bitcoin Price

Even the astir bullish Bitcoiners are drastically underestimating the inevitable and meteoric emergence of bitcoin arsenic it becomes adopted connected a planetary scale.

This is simply a transcribed mentation of the Bitcoin Magazine Podcast, hosted by P and Q. In this episode, they are joined by Christian Keroles to speech astir however adjacent the astir bullish Bitcoiners are not bullish capable connected the affirmative benefits Bitcoin volition person for the world.

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[00:00:05] Q: Welcome backmost everyone. Thank you for taking those commercialized breaks. And we are joined by nary different than CK SNAs, arsenic you whitethorn cognize him connected Twitter, we cognize him, Christian, however goes it, CK? What's up? Also, how's my audio amended than past clip we saw you. We should astir apt really springiness him a due introduction, due to the fact that technically speaking, this is our boss, this is our fearless leader. He is the antheral successful complaint of each things Bitcoin magazine. Was that, did that screen the gist of everything you do?

[00:00:38] CK: And past some, yeah. You know, conscionable making things happy, trying to enactment bullish truthful

[00:00:43] Q: Well, arsenic you effort to say, bullish you person beauteous overmuch shamed each of us. And we're conscionable gonna commencement close there. Cuz you just, you've been connected a small spot of a rant for the past fewer weeks connected Twitter. Trying to telephone retired conscionable Bitcoiners successful general, accidental they're not bullish enough. Like what bash you mean by that?

[00:01:00] CK: How bash you consciousness astir 100K? Is that a batch of wealth for Bitcoin? How bash you consciousness astir a cardinal dollars for Bitcoin?

Those are rookie numbers. I mean, I hold better, but not gonna, I consciousness similar radical Bitcoiners speech astir like, they're like, what's my bull script and they're similar 3 cardinal Bitcoin. I'm like, guys, like, travel on, like, you guys are truly fucking bearish. I just, I consciousness similar this thought of similar infinity divided by 21 million, similar Bitcoiners benignant of similar bushed their thorax astir it, but they, they haven't thought astir it enough.

Like what does that really mean? And past like, if you've, past thought astir what that really means, similar however you request to. Behave successful bid to spot that aboriginal because, you know, I think, you know, evidently it's 1 happening is similar being capable to spot the, the close future. And past it's similar however to presumption yourself for that.

That's the different part. So I mean that, I that's however I'd similar precocious level frame. It similar wherefore it's important to beryllium bullish enough, beryllium the due magnitude of bullishness, due to the fact that different you mightiness fuck up.

So I'm, I privation to get your consciousness connected this due to the fact that I deliberation you're close successful saying this thought that, oh, similar a 100 K a million, 3 million, similar that's not bullish enough, but is conscionable the sheer information that determination is inactive this speech astir Bitcoin volition beryllium worthy X fig of dollars.

Fiat of this Fiat relationship, is that not the astir bearish sentiment retired determination versus thing similar saying, I privation 1 Bitcoin to beryllium capable to spend maine a house, 2 cars, this similar conscionable a laundry database of things. And past mm-hmm, changing the equation to say, I don't needfully request it to beryllium worthy this overmuch successful Fiat.

I request it to person this overmuch buying powerfulness for these necessities. Would that beryllium a much bullish speech successful your opinion?

I mean, yeah. I deliberation buying powerfulness is similar the much close mode to deliberation astir Bitcoin agelong term, but I mean, I'm not reasoning astir buying powerfulness of Bitcoins. I'm talking, I'm reasoning astir buying powerfulness of sat.

So again, similar if we repriced the satellite successful sat and past like, Repricing the satellite successful stats and past staying astatine this existent baseline is successful my sentiment already truly fucking bearish. Like isn't the full constituent of Bitcoin is that it's similar a cardinal monolithic upgrade connected however we pass and measurement and store and transact and stock worth amongst each other.

Like it theoretically, similar Fiat has been holding america back. And, Bitcoin tin really alteration adjacent much innovation, adjacent much wealth, adjacent much prosperity. So conscionable similar calculating wherever we're astatine close now, and past trying to travel up with some, you know, what, what tin a bargain successful powerfulness volition a, a re-priced satellite successful SATs springiness you similar one, I deliberation that's gonna stroke people's socks off, but 2 that's inactive bearish due to the fact that that's not taking into account.

The upgrade to nine that is Bitcoin. The upgrade to the satellite that is.

[00:04:14] Q: So, what does hyperbitcoinization mean to you?

[00:04:19] CK: I mean, I deliberation it's simple. It's repricing the satellite successful sets. So everything, everything similar Bitcoin is a, is a, is simply a worth connection protocol. So we request to usage it to value, to worth and pass that value. So, erstwhile each facet of the satellite is settling value, either denominated successful Bitcoin or, oregon settled straight connected the Bitcoin blockchain oregon immoderate derivative of the Bitcoin blockchain, similar that's hyper ization to me.

And past again, like, There's a speech about, you know, what's the terms of stats today. What's the buying powerfulness of stats successful the future? And past like, what, you know, tin you do, is it humanly imaginable for your encephalon to task retired accurately what the aboriginal volition look like? You know, fixed Bitcoin arsenic our, arsenic our planetary money.

And, and I conscionable deliberation that one, we can't, it's intolerable to like, I, and I I'll I'll basal by this, like, hey, Nikola Tesla was beauteous celebrated for a batch of things, but I would accidental similar the, astir apt the happening that helium was astir apt astir celebrated astir is helium could really benignant of commencement to project, you know, what energy volition let america to do.

Like, helium was connected the close track. Like helium was successful galore ways, you know, slight, astir bullish enough, astir bullish enough. So, you know, I don't deliberation immoderate of america are visionaries oregon savant similar Tesla or. Live nets or, oregon fricking Benjamin Franklin or, oregon Newton oregon immoderate of these radical who, you know, benignant of had the imaginativeness erstwhile determination was nary groundwork there.

So I like, I think, you know, we're inactive highly early, similar we're, we're successful the monetization process. Like we haven't adjacent gotten to that constituent wherever Bitcoin is, is the portion of account. And past erstwhile Bitcoin's the portion of account, that's like, that's erstwhile the travel starts. Like that's, that's erstwhile the real, similar strides in, successful innovation commencement happening due to the fact that we're not being weighed down by Fiat.

So I just, again, I question like, is determination a quality being live that's bullish enough? And past if adjacent your wildest dreams of bullishness are, are bearish, like, okay, however bash you, however bash you set your behaviour to like, effort to like, not fuck this happening up? Because like, again, if you're not bullish enough, likelihood are, is you merchantability your Bitcoin excessively early, oregon you.

You don't presumption yourself correctly. Like we tin get into the circumstantial scenarios, but I mean, I conjecture what what's, y'all's instrumentality on, connected that. Like again, I'm conscionable trying to recognize what's happening and again, presumption myself, right? That's the full constituent of Bitcoin is to get sats, you know, walk 'em down and, and reap the benefits of Bitcoin's hyper monetization.

[00:07:03] P: I wholly hold with you. I mean, I deliberation it is precise hard to beryllium bullish capable connected this asset, adjacent arsenic Bitcoiners. I deliberation that I besides americium selfishly I'm like, Hey, let's support the terms debased truthful that I tin get much of them and the radical I attraction astir and, you know, radical that that we're trying to scope with Bitcoin mag and the league and everything that we're doing tin person a amended accidental to get successful connected this.

But yeah, I mean, I deliberation that Bitcoin is decidedly going to go the. Store a worth for the full world. And I deliberation that's gonna hap wrong our lifetimes possibly soon after, but the thrust up it's conscionable the, the hazard reward illustration connected Bitcoin is truthful asymmetric. It's astounding to maine that much radical are not arsenic bullish arsenic you are CK arsenic you similar to say, 37 sats volition beryllium generational wealth.

[00:08:00] CK: I mean, well, like, let's just, let's conscionable deliberation astir this successful presumption of, truthful 37 sat, that's the artifact reward and I deliberation 97 years I thought it was a 100 years erstwhile I picked it, but it really wasn't. So it was benignant of a fucked up mistake connected my part, but 97 years from now, 37 task volition beryllium the artifact award.

So if Bitcoin works, that means a important magnitude of the world's vigor is gonna beryllium used. connected a, you know, regular ground connected a 10 infinitesimal per artifact ground successful bid to get those 37 sats. So if Bitcoin works, likelihood are 37 sats are worthy it versus they're not worthy it. So what does that mean? Like how, like, let's effort to like, if Bitcoin works, what the fuck is this each gonna, like, however is this gonna look like?

And past again, similar let's zoom into like, okay, what tin you adjacent predict? What is going, what the world's gonna look similar successful 97 years. Right. Okay. Let's fast. Let's spell backwards successful 97 years. Like that's pre satellite warfare II. Like, bash you deliberation anyone past could person similar predicted what the hellhole we'd beryllium doing now?

Like hellhole no. Hell no. They're each mode off. A 100 percent of each of 'em are a 100 percent off. So I deliberation it's, there's a higher likelihood of 37 stats being generational wealthiness than not. So that's my calculation there.

[00:09:20] Q: So. I wanna code 1 of the questions that came from LinkedIn truly quickly.

Not a dumb question. You're conscionable learning man. So SA is abbreviated for Satoshi. It's the smallest increment of Bitcoin. There are a 100 cardinal satoshi successful each Bitcoin. It is fundamentally each of the decimal places out. So that is what we mean erstwhile we accidental SATs. And if determination are different questions successful that vein that you guys don't recognize what we are saying, delight consciousness escaped to constitute a remark astir it, and we volition bash our champion to code these arsenic we proceed this conversation.

I, you guys are conscionable gonna telephone maine a bear. I don't springiness a shit. I've said this countless times and I benignant of, I truly bash judge this. We unluckily volition not spot the dollar vanish successful our lifetime, what it volition beryllium utilized for and however it'll beryllium utilized whitethorn drastically displacement the opportunities to usage Bitcoin.

I bash judge it volition proceed to germinate and determination volition beryllium greater opportunities than what we person today. I just, possibly I'm inactive

[00:10:22] CK: stuck successful it wholly de disagree, but just fair. I mean, I will, I conjecture like, Hey, however overmuch of our telecommunication is done via telephone enactment versus done implicit the net now?

[00:10:34] Q: Like I would accidental astir mine, astir a 100 percent is done via the internet.

[00:10:38] CK: And that happened without telephone cables, sidesplitting themselves. Like you're saying that the dollar is gonna past it, we're ne'er gonna successful our lifetimes get, spell beyond it. Bitcoin is an upgrade onto the dollar onto that monetary system. Right. And, and connected apical of that, the dollar is really sidesplitting itself.

Like it is successful the process of sidesplitting itself. So like, to me, it is conscionable perfectly asinine to accidental thing similar successful our lifetime, the dollar is going to proceed to beryllium applicable against the astir cleanable monetary strategy that has ever been created. Like it it's, it's perfectly Justine. It's perfectly bearish it's truthful carnivore it's like, Hey, you know, similar we're inactive gonna conscionable usage the fucking pony express, adjacent though we person telephone lines now, you cognize why?

Because the authorities similar unopen the fuck up. Like unopen the fuck up. Yeah,

[00:11:34] P: That's right. Sorry.

[00:11:35] Q: That's right. What today?

[00:11:37] CK: It's conscionable AB it's conscionable like, similar however are you calling yourself a Bitcoin and person that opinion? It's conscionable insane to me.

[00:11:42] Q: You are MIS,

[00:11:44] CK: but with that, Bitcoin is, I would accidental that Bitcoin is binary. So you should hole for a, you know, everything oregon zero scenario.

[00:11:53] Q: Okay, we volition unpack that, but you are misrepresenting my quote. I americium not saying that we are going to lone beryllium utilizing the dollar and we're going to beryllium stuck connected the dollar. What I genuinely judge is going to hap is determination volition beryllium immoderate signifier of a instrumentality to a dollar backed by immoderate signifier of dependable money.

And I bash judge Bitcoin tin and volition instrumentality that role. I don't judge that each azygous state successful the satellite is going to transact connected Bitcoin. Unfortunately not portion I americium alive. I bash judge successful the aboriginal to P.

[00:12:23] CK: Is determination a state that doesn't person a website?

[00:12:34] CK: The land federation of Q I'm pretty, I'm beauteous similar it isn't car, like, Central African Republic. One of the industrialized and precocious countries successful the world, each state has got a website. They adjacent person a fucking it's like, bro, like, this is, this is the bearishness that I'm trying to code present guys.

It's like, Bitcoin is simply a cardinal step-change up. It's like, Hey, we person missiles, but Hey, you cognize what? We're inactive gonna usage bow and arrows. It's like, no, we're not similar you're good. Have fun. Staying poor, similar person amusive becoming wholly irrelevant successful the world. It's like, however agelong did it instrumentality similar a communist strategy that had a apical down economical exemplary compared to, I mean, you could reason that we unrecorded successful a authorities communist strategy contiguous that has a free, similar escaped marketish model.

Like those things close adjacent to each other. It didn't instrumentality precise agelong for, for capitalism to, to win. Like, again, erstwhile you person 2 systems that vie adjacent to each other, the strategy that is inferior. Technologically dies. So similar that is what is gonna hap to Fiat currency again. And that's what's gonna hap successful golden too.

I'm not saying that it's conscionable Fiat. It's conscionable governments. I'm saying it's similar golden houses, ETS. It's similar virtually each azygous mode that you could person communicated successful stored worth is getting disrupted. Okay.

[00:13:56] Q: A 100 percent of it. We volition unpack the binary outcome, but I privation you to support your claims close now, due to the fact that what you are fundamentally saying is like, there's nary worth successful the aboriginal of your home.

So what is like, what does that truly mean? How bash you deliberation we get to a constituent wherever each of the worth successful the satellite is lone successful Bitcoin? Because fto maine archer you something. It is gonna beryllium a batch much achy than I deliberation you are giving it recognition for. And ping brings retired parts of people, parts of governments that we whitethorn not person ever seen before.

This is not conscionable gonna beryllium a, oh, you cognize what? That's a amended technology. Let's conscionable spell there. There's gonna beryllium fighting. There's gonna beryllium legitimate. Fine. I agree. People are gonna suffer a lot. And erstwhile radical suffer a lot, they volition fucking combat back. So yeah, no,

[00:14:40] CK: I mean, however bash you deliberation we get it? I agree. I mean, I deliberation that Bitcoiners request the, beryllium the due level of bullishness.

So that mode they tin presumption themselves appropriately for the crap storm. That's astir toue betwixt present and hyper ization. I deliberation there's a truly large metaphor to that. Tina and Joe Carlos, atrocious were utilizing connected the podcast had dropped with them yesterday, but it's like, if you're connected 1 broadside of the expansive canyon and you are looking again crossed the different broadside of the, the expansive canyon and that is hyper ization, similar a batch of Bitcoiners are like, oh, we'll conscionable get implicit there.

But no, there's this full fucking canyon successful between. So similar you request to beryllium prepared for the travel you request to get crossed the canyon. Otherwise you're going to get perfectly wrecked. And honestly, my presumption close present is that one. Most Bitcoiners already person capable Bitcoiners Bitcoin to beryllium extremely, highly affluent successful a Bitcoin eyes world, which volition hap beauteous soon too.

Is that getting crossed the decorativeness enactment is gonna beryllium a batch harder than you think. And honestly, I deliberation that similar there's a apical successful however overmuch Bitcoin, Bitcoin hardcore Bitcoiners astatine this clip person like, I deliberation hard, a batch of hardcore Bitcoiners deliberation that they're. Have much Bitcoin successful the future. They're gonna support accumulating Bitcoin astatine debased prices.

I honestly deliberation that possibly some, immoderate Bitcoiners, treble oregon triple their stack successful the adjacent fewer years. And past by the clip we get to 2030, they've mislaid a batch of it, right. Either done theft, death, bribery, extortion, having to permission a state nonaccomplishment of keys, similar I'm serious. Like there's similar you, you sanction it.

There's truthful galore ways to suffer those Bitcoin. And I truly bash deliberation that there's gonna beryllium a batch of similar hardcore Bitcoiners who person like, they virtually person topped successful their sat number due to the fact that they're not ready. So, I mean, honestly, you already person capable stats. You should beryllium focusing each your effort connected conscionable getting that crap crossed the finish.

[00:16:31] Q: Okay. You person not yet answered my question though. So I'm gonna inquire it again. What are the steps that you deliberation are gonna hap to get to that point? Like wherever are the symptom points that are gonna happen, that we person to mentally commencement preparing for? If you're telling america that there's gonna beryllium nary worth successful the aboriginal of your homes, wherever are radical gonna beryllium living?

[00:16:49] CK: Well? So that's a straw, man. I'm not saying that there's gonna beryllium nary worth successful the aboriginal astatine home, but possibly determination you, you, we volition halt Arcan utilizing houses to store value, these assets that, you know, okay. Maybe the, the existent property itself is not being built up much of, but the existent plus itself is depreciating.

Like it's this house. I conscionable moved into a marque caller house. Like, since I've moved in, it's lone gotten damaged. Right. It's lone gotten damaged. So sounds similar the existent location itself is simply a li no, I'm conscionable saying it's a reality. It's, it's a liability, but, so, I mean, the location itself is simply a liability. So wherefore is it being utilized to store worth and however is it gonna compete?

Something that is simply a overmuch much precocious store worth that has nary liability attached to it. So I like, I'm not saying that similar your location is not gonna beryllium stored value, but possibly if you're, oregon is not gonna beryllium like, is gonna beryllium worth list. I'm definite your location volition beryllium precise valuable, particularly if it's has a large determination oregon if it's successful the close vicinity oregon if it's adjacent to wherever you wanna are your family, or, you know, if it's the operation and physique that you deliberation is cleanable for you, but utilizing homes arsenic a store of value, I deliberation is being disrupted, perfectly utilizing paintings arsenic a store of worth beyond your sentimental worth for that art.

Like, I deliberation it's gonna beryllium disrupted significantly. Maybe there's a fringe radical that does it, but it's conscionable not gonna beryllium a mainstream mode to store value. Just similar again, the pony explicit is not a mainstream mode to nonstop messages. Maybe it inactive exists. Like possibly it's inactive applicable to immoderate people, but like, it's conscionable not gonna beryllium mainstream.

And again, similar everyone needs a location to unrecorded in, but I deliberation that a batch much radical are gonna person a location to unrecorded successful erstwhile BlackRock isn't funneling fucking ETF worth into each location successful America and pumping up the prices, indiscriminately. Like I deliberation that the, the deficiency of store of worth successful Fiat is really hurting society.

Right? Like you deliberation your location being invaluable is simply a bully happening for society. It's not, it's a atrocious happening due to the fact that present radical can't person homes due to the fact that they're getting priced outta homes. But yet, you know, there's like, there's similar a treble digit magnitude of New York metropolis apartments that are vacant astatine each times.

It's just, it's obscene. And conjecture what radical are like, wherefore is New York truthful overmuch much costly than it ever was before? Well conjecture what? Cuz much apartments successful New York are being utilized arsenic store worth than ever before. So. Look, Bitcoin's gonna fundamentally upgrade the satellite successful galore ways. And portion of that is virtually sucking retired by contention via retired competing each different store of worth connected the planet.

I person this, I did a presentation. It was called however overmuch Bitcoin bash you truly need? And 1 of the slides I took, like, it was similar a unsmooth it was similar a unsmooth estimation of the store of worth market. I judge that the unsmooth estimation is similar here, I'm really gonna propulsion up the slide. But the unsmooth estimation I deliberation is like, do, bash do 13 quadri dollars.

I mean, Dylan LeClair says that it's $6 trillion oregon quadri dollars. But this, this unsmooth estimation was 13 quadri dollars. So like, let's conscionable presume derivatives existent property bonds, currency, banal gold, metallic alt coins. All of that is divided by 21 cardinal arsenic Bitcoiners, similar to LARP about. Okay, well, you're looking astatine $6 successful 2 cents per Shi.

right similar that, that, like, are you, are, bash you see that you deliberation a sat is gonna beryllium $6 and 2 cents, and again, that is bearish. Like that's not adjacent treating Bitcoin arsenic an upgrade arsenic similar thing that's gonna make much wealth. Right? Like, did the energy bring much wealthiness to your life?

Absolutely. Like the electricity, electricity, the invention of energy compounded wealth, similar exponentially from wherever it was before. And it accrued everyone's prime of beingness exponentially from wherever it was before. So similar we're, we're, we're dividing the existent preh colonization marketplace headdress of the satellite worth of the satellite by 21 million.

And it's $6 successful immoderate consciousness per Satoshi. So, I mean, similar y'all are bears. Like if this happening again, if this happening works similar y'all are fucking bears, this thing's gonna go. It's gonna stroke your socks off. We're going Melissa Toshi 37, SAS are gonna beryllium generational wealth. Like we're gonna person fucking Dyson spheres sucking up vigor disconnected the, disconnected the sun.

Like, you know, hopefully we're inter planetary astatine that point, possibly we're worrying astir bigger problems, which is, you know, however overmuch of the beingness we tin worldly into 21 cardinal Bitcoin. Like if it works, similar we request to get truthful overmuch much bullish. Like what, what's our baseline. Like, it's insane.

[00:21:29] Q: I don't deliberation you are decently addressing oregon reasoning done and helium conscionable walked away.

So he's not gonna perceive this. I don't deliberation CK, you are really reasoning done what has to hap betwixt the existent strategy and our existent property market. And this thought that you person that everyone's conscionable gonna person a house. And determination has to beryllium a batch of steps successful between. And I deliberation rather frankly, the presumption you are drafting is affluent Bitcoiners.

Just gonna commencement buying a crippled of existent property and conscionable giving them retired to people. Yeah. And that's truthful unrealistic. And I think, I deliberation what's much apt to

[00:22:06] CK: happen. What, what, what is straw, man? If I ever heard one,

[00:22:09] Q: fto maine finish, please. I fto you finish. Let maine

[00:22:12] CK: okay. Just halt throwing strawman astatine me. Steel man, ne bro steel, man.

Me,

[00:22:19] Q: I bash not deliberation you are rather frankly, reasoning done what are the steps to get to the constituent you are really claiming we volition get to that is 1 imaginable scenario. Another imaginable script that I rather frankly deliberation we're scar gonna person travel to fruition is to your point. BlackRock, backstage equity firms are buying up a batch of existent estate.

they're conscionable gonna beryllium our landlords oregon the fucking authorities volition beryllium our landlords. And past each of a abrupt determination is nary worth successful existent property due to the fact that it's held successful the hands of a few. So I don't recognize rather frankly, however you are getting to this conclusion, what steps you deliberation volition happen. That is simply a batch of symptom to get to a constituent that you are claiming volition hap without explaining to me, what are the, what are the symptom points to get there?

[00:23:05] CK: The happening is like, I, I can't, I can't explicate these ace analyzable things connected this amusement that simply right. Like one, if I knew each the answers, I wouldn't beryllium connected this show, bro. I, I, I would beryllium advising immoderate truly important people. Maybe they'd beryllium listening to me. Maybe they wouldn't be, I don't know, but I don't cognize each the answers there, but what I tin archer you is that archetypal and foremost, Bitcoin is happening.

No substance what, similar Bitcoin's here, Bitcoin is happen. Number two. Bitcoin is really a solution to a implicit cluster. Fuck, that's coming nary substance what. Right? So the implicit indiscriminate fucking that humanity is astir to acquisition is coming with oregon without Bitcoin it's and it's coming due to the fact that of the centralization, the demolition of the sanctity of a golden based system, you know, the attraction of power, you could bring up similar the invention of atomic weapons and the inability to, for, you know, anyone to vie past, having nuclear.

I don't know, similar there's truthful galore antithetic ways that you tin portion and dice however we got to this constituent of like, perfectly fucked arsenic humanity, but conjecture what? There's this small happening called Bitcoin that got invented and each of a abrupt it changes everything. It perfectly changes everything. And personally, for me, I deliberation similar Bitcoin's binary.

So I like, I started, I started the speech oregon my notes by saying Bitcoin is binary. But the world is, is that Bitcoin is simply a acceptable of incentives. If that inducement operation works and continues to enactment into perpetuity, astir apt similar Bitcoin out, competes each different assets and sucks up each and becomes the ascendant root of worth successful the quality universe.

Right? If Bitcoin doesn't like, benignant of spell connected this, this travel to its last destiny, it volition termination itself. Like the alt pointers each speech astir like, ohio my God, what happens erstwhile the artifact grant goes to zero? And there's nary 1 utilizing Bitcoin, well, conjecture what? Bitcoin's fucking dead. Like, nary one's utilizing what nary 1 cares astir it.

And conjecture what? Like the artifact committee went to zero, but it, that, that, that is not truly a script that's similar worthy focusing connected similar beauteous overmuch you should admit that scenario. You should beryllium like, what's the percent accidental that that happens. You should hole for efficaciously Bitcoin zero. But successful presumption of like, reasoning astir Bitcoin, it doesn't truly adjacent marque consciousness to like, deliberation about, to, to deliberation astir a Bitcoin script wherever it's like, wherever Bitcoin's similar this mediate crushed asset, wherever Bitcoin is conscionable like, Hey, it's working, it's fine.

You know, possibly there's gonna beryllium interest issues. Maybe we request a fricking widen the, the, the process emissions. It's like, no, similar that's, that's failure. That's implicit failure. It's similar either the incentives enactment 21 cardinal works impervious of enactment works. The, the node web works oregon it doesn't. So again, if, if it does enactment okay, Figure out.

What, what is infinity divided by 21 million, fig retired however galore stats you request to get. So you tin beryllium satisfied, multiply that by, you know, immoderate benignant of exponential relation to code for your successful quality inability to beryllium bullish capable and past absorption each your vigor connected getting crossed the decorativeness line. Like that's what I'm saying is crap is gonna get gnarly Q similar it's not gonna beryllium good.

Like demonetization of each this worldly is going to marque the satellite spell perfectly haywire, but it's happening nary substance what. So like, bash you person the bullets and bash you person the passports and bash you person each the different things that you need? Do you person the multisig Strategy and the, the the what's it called?

The mode to walk down your Bitcoin to your heirs. If thing happens to you, like, if not, like, are you adjacent preparing enough, right. Like your inheritance plan. Thank you, Chris is perfectly indispensable if you're bullish enough, honestly. And I mean, again, if you person capable Bitcoin contiguous to beryllium enormously affluent successful the future, similar wherever are you out?

Like, wherever are you mounting your priorities? Like, again, it's important to beryllium bullish enough. So that mode you can, you tin set however you behave and you tin marque definite you, you get past, you know, the craziness that's coming.

[00:27:20] Q: So I'm gonna contiguous this question successful a antithetic way. We're each acquainted with Darwin's mentation of evolution.

For those who are not Darwin did not judge improvement was gradual. It happened successful each generation. Something would cave. The champion trait would past transportation connected to the adjacent generation. So connected and truthful forth. So my question to you guys is, bash you deliberation this displacement from our Fiat strategy to Bitcoin volition beryllium gradual oregon volition it beryllium this crisp displacement that volition conscionable 1 time volition aftermath up and they'll accidental we're present connected the Bitcoin standard.

[00:27:53] CK: Is it maine first?

[00:27:54] Q: I mean, I'll adjacent stock my sentiment connected this first. No, no,

[00:27:57] P: wait, I wanna hear, I wanna perceive CKS and past I'll springiness you

[00:27:59] CK: excavation and past I wanna perceive yours. Yeah. I mean, I consciousness similar I've been ranting a lot, truthful I'm funny to perceive what you guys think, but no, I mean, my intelligence exemplary for hyper ization is 2030.

It happens successful the adjacent 30 years happens archetypal successful the vigor industry. And that's truly the, the fulcrum for a Bitcoin standard. So, I don't cognize precisely however that plays out, but you know, I bash deliberation that we are, the trajectory is dependable truthful things are escalating precise quickly. Bitcoin is becoming much and much applicable and similar Bitcoin is not adjacent an bid magnitude distant from extremity to marketplace cap.

So similar 1 much order, magnitude upgrade and Bitcoin is virtually a geopolitically. It, you know, it's, it's connected the geopolitical level of each different Fiat currency that is relevant, you know, the dollar goal, I mean the dollar euros the Chinese, you won, et cetera. So again, similar it, it's not gonna instrumentality that overmuch for Bitcoin to beryllium extremely, highly applicable connected a geopolitical scale.

And arsenic agelong arsenic Bitcoin continues to spell deeper and deeper into the. The the vigor crushed that is the, the fulcrum of, of hyper colonization from there.

[00:29:12] P: Yeah. I deliberation you nailed it. I deliberation that to reply your question specifically, Q I deliberation that,

[00:29:15] Q: A batch

[00:29:16] P: of these things that pb to hyper Bitcoin arsenic satellite are already happening, and it is difficult.

It is hard to separate similar which 1 is benignant of similar the breaking constituent versus, you know, thing else, a measurement connected that path, but determination are going to beryllium a succession of similar large events. We don't cognize what those are. I would say, you know, decidedly wrong our lifetimes that instrumentality america down that path.

I hold with CK that it's gonna astir apt commencement successful the vigor markets. But you know, there's nary mode to foretell it. Specif.

[00:29:47] Q: So I hatred to accidental it similar this, but I really hold with some of you. I was truly hoping to, to get immoderate pushback present connected this one, but it it's a operation of the two. I deliberation what CK outlined is precise spot on. It volition hap manufacture astatine a clip until yet we volition look backmost and beryllium like, oh, Bitcoin is everyplace doing everything and functioning arsenic it was meant to function.

But there's gonna beryllium a

[00:30:09] P: landslide eventually. Like there's gonna beryllium a constituent wherever every, wherever abruptly everybody successful the aforesaid mode that contagion works, right. It's gonna beryllium contagion to Bitcoin. So conscionable similar we saw, you know, Celsius stroke up 3 AC, stroke up and past they start, you commencement having these benignant of similar knockdown effects and the effect gets greater and greater and greater.

We're going to spot the aforesaid happening due to the fact that arsenic soon arsenic you know, a certain, a ample capable proportionality of things are being denominated successful Bitcoin, whether explicitly oregon down the scenes, everyone's gonna beryllium like, ohio fuck, I gotta get my crap into Bitcoin. That's the lone happening that really matters. And I don't cognize erstwhile that point's gonna be, but it's gonna happen.

Slowly slowly, it's gonna beryllium GRA I hatred to accidental this it's we conscionable tempest which mode it's gonna beryllium gradually. And past

[00:30:46] Q: suddenly, yeah, I, I tin hold with that. I mean, this, this is virtually the, truthful erstwhile Greg FOSS says his happening of Bitcoin is simply a recognition default swap connected Fiat, that's fundamentally what helium is saying.

And for those who are little acquainted of what a recognition default swap truly is, deliberation of it similar insurance, security connected a enslaved oregon thing that you deliberation volition yet not cookware retired and you're paying twelvemonth implicit year. What Michael Murray did was bargain a recognition default, swap connected a clump of immoderate premier owe loans.

What we are doing with Bitcoin is buying a clump of Bitcoin, cuz we judge the Fiat currency strategy volition fail. Michael birdie thought the subprime owe marketplace was failing. So each twelvemonth helium would put. Few cardinal dollars into this security plan, cuz helium thought it would illness and fail. I genuinely judge it is nary different.

And that is what FOS is trying to explicate and to pee successful CKS points here, it is precisely that it volition beryllium slowly. This 1 manufacture volition instrumentality it. And past the, the manufacture that's conscionable tangentially over. We'll see, Hey wait, that manufacture is booming. And the quality present is they took, they adopted Bitcoin.

How did 1 manufacture truly instrumentality clasp it's due to the fact that 1 institution led the complaint and each of its competitors are like, ohio shit, they're utilizing Bitcoin and they're making much money. So it is to your point. It is dilatory and past suddenly. And it volition beryllium precise abruptly and radical volition not, it volition beryllium excessively precocious by the clip everyone realizes it to ape into Bitcoin, but it was excessively precocious to bargain a recognition default swap successful summertime of 2007 due to the fact that the lodging marketplace already started crashing the clip to buy.

It was years earlier to get prepared for the inevit. However, determination volition beryllium this agelong of clip wherever each of america volition dependable similar the brainsick idiosyncratic astatine the meal enactment is like, oh, that is the Bitcoin guy. He thinks the satellite is gonna that's close now. Totally. So I don't admit being called a, a skeptic connected Bitcoin, however, CK.

So you tin spell fuck yourself connected that one.

[00:32:45] CK: My friend, dude, you get little bearish than man. I don't cognize what to archer you. Like what we're talking like. We are talking astir the basics of bullishness, which is that Bitcoin is simply a step, is simply a cardinal upgrade connected the existent system. Therefore is gonna person cardinal increases successful our magnitude of wealthiness that we person entree to.

So if you're adjacent comparing it to what we're dealing with, it's similar you're successful the chromatic property and you're talking astir the concern age. It's conscionable like, it's like, we're moving into the future. Like you can't adjacent compare, you can't adjacent compare. And that's why, again, I'm telling Bitcoiners one, you request to beryllium bullish enough.

So that mode you tin hole yourself for the crap amusement that we are astir to embark. And past two, similar however overmuch Bitcoin bash you really need? Like, should you beryllium focusing each your vigor connected stacking stats? I don't know. I don't know. So, I mean, I'm each astir stacking stats. I stack stats each azygous week, aggregate times a day, adjacent I stack each dip, but I'm besides truly focused connected currency flow.

I'm besides truly focused connected security. I'm besides truly focused connected my my inheritance plan. And honestly, I request to beryllium doing more. I request to beryllium doing a batch more. And honestly, I could astir apt beryllium focusing a batch much connected that stuff, cuz I astir apt already person capable stats. And honestly, astir of you bash too.

If Bitcoin works, you astir apt already bash so. I mean, I'm not saying to support stacking, but absorption connected keeping it, absorption connected keeping it.

[00:34:07] P: Yeah. To that point. One happening that I deliberation is important is arsenic bullish arsenic we are, this is simply a it is simply a marathon. and truthful you request to beryllium managing, successful my opinion, you request to beryllium managing your currency travel effectively.

So, you know, for radical similar if you spell each successful connected Bitcoin and past the Bitcoin terms drops arsenic it, arsenic it has, you request to person a program successful spot truthful that you are capable to prolong your lifestyle, your family, each the worldly that's important. So, you know, program accordingly, don't conscionable you know, to to spell backmost to CKS analogy of the expansive canyon, don't conscionable propulsion yourself into the abyss and beryllium like, I'm gonna beryllium fine, bro.

Plan ahead.

[00:34:46] Q: So let's unpack this binary result situation. What, wherefore don't you CK instrumentality the clip to truly explicate what, what it is you mean by this imaginable binary outcome. And let's commencement archetypal with the anticipation that it doesn't work. And what does that really.

[00:35:07] CK: Okay. So I deliberation it's truly important to deliberation of Bitcoin, astatine slightest it's extremity similar imaginable outcomes is the slightest apt imaginable result is that Bitcoin is similar marginally relevant.

You know, Bitcoin's conscionable whatever, you know, it's conscionable different cryptocurrency. It's conscionable different asset. Like that's not gonna beryllium the case. And again, a batch of the carnivore cases connected Bitcoin benignant of travel astir that it's like, if Bitcoin's conscionable different cryptocurrency, similar I'm looking astatine its economical exemplary and it's going to fail.

And I would say, yes, that is true. If, if Bitcoin is conscionable different cryptocurrency, it volition fail. But conjecture what? It's not conscionable different cryptocurrency. Bitcoin is the ascendant cryptocurrency. Bitcoin is the eventual store of value. Bitcoin is gonna beryllium the Nuer mistake for for measuring value, the metric strategy for measuring value.

And connected apical of that, the mode it does that is by having this cleanable monetary strategy and this cleanable hard cap. And if that hard headdress does not work, it volition not beryllium competitory against the different things. There's different things that volition outcompete it. So we, we request Bitcoin to beryllium the cleanable wealth and we request the incentives to enactment for Bitcoin to enactment arsenic it is.

And if Bitcoin gets forked, if thing changes to the monetary the monetary argumentation of the system, it's nary longer Bitcoin and that experimentation has failed and volition beryllium onto the adjacent one. So I conscionable don't spot a satellite wherever Bitcoin is conscionable this, immoderate mean currency. I truly lone spot hyper ization oregon failure.

So I deliberation Bitcoiners should hole for those 2 situations. One, if it's hyper ization, similar get capable Bitcoin to beryllium highly affluent successful that concern and marque definite that you're taking attraction of each the different things that could termination you, bargain your wealthiness betwixt present and. And past if Bitcoin goes to zero, well, you should person different shit, similar possibly person immoderate gold, possibly person immoderate bullets, possibly it's worthy it to bargain a location arsenic a hedge.

I don't know. Like again, I, I conscionable deliberation that this thought of similar lone having Bitcoin and past not worrying astir each the different things that could messiness up your stack. I conscionable deliberation that it's a precise fragile, very, precise fragile concern and radical are putting themselves it's adjacent worse. They're, they're, they're putting successful themselves successful that I person lone Bitcoin and present I'm going leveraged on connected that too.

And I'm ace bullish too, but conjecture what? Like the stats I person are amended than the stats I could person had due to the fact that I fucked it up. So, ID conscionable alternatively person little stats than nary sat astatine all. So it truly is. I deliberation having a very, precise blimpish strategy to get crossed the decorativeness enactment is perfectly indispensable due to the fact that Bitcoin's asymmetric similar your, your azygous sat that you tin bargain virtually millions of, for hundreds of dollars today.

Like it's gonna beryllium worthy implicit $6 acceptable successful today's buying power. That's conscionable based connected infinity divided by 21 cardinal close present that's not adjacent accounting for immoderate exponential growth.

[00:38:01] Q: So with these binary outcomes, what successful your sentiment is wherever does thing similar a state having a Bitcoin modular inactive issuing their ain currency, but it's backed by Bitcoin that everyone tin spot dissimilar successful the golden modular wherever they tin benignant of fudge their numbers a small spot more. Is wherever does that autumn into this binary result scenario?

In your opinion, it, would that beryllium a nonaccomplishment successful your mind?

[00:38:25] CK: No. I mean, again, similar past they're, they're yet settling worth and each of their hazard is gonna be, you know, measured against the Bitcoin that idiosyncratic other could person had. So, astir similar Fiat currency is benignant of similar immoderate Bitcoin the state has, positive plus immoderate recognition you wanna springiness them.

I don't know. Someone said $6 that says unrealistic and I would telephone them a bear. Just similar successful a hybridization scenario. I don't deliberation that's unrealistic.

[00:38:53] Q: So however overmuch successful a hybrid Bitcoin eyes scenario, however overmuch does the oculus powerfulness of 1 Bitcoin clasp oregon what marque it simpler? How overmuch tin you bargain with a 4th of a Bitcoin?

[00:39:07] P: It's similar 225 millions.

[00:39:10] CK: It's like, it is not humanly imaginable for maine to archer you, like, I can't beryllium bullish enough. It's not humanly imaginable for maine to accurately archer you I'm not Nicola Tesla, but possibly like, let's spell backmost successful past and beryllium like, okay, Hey Q, similar you're a poor, you're a mediocre farmer. Like erstwhile the satellite is electrified, conjecture what?

You're gonna beryllium capable to workplace 10 times a 100 times, a 1000 times much than your tract with lone 1 person. That's the level of, of, of innovation that we're astir to like, acquisition arsenic humanity. So it's like, possibly it's adjacent more, I don't know, similar that, like, that's the lone mode that I can, like, I tin adjacent remotely like, effort to explicit similar wherever we're going.

[00:40:01] Q: So person it connected record. He refused to reply the question that helium projected by the way. Jesus,

[00:40:07] CK: wait, Pete, did I not reply the question?

[00:40:10] P: You did reply the question. He's asking an intolerable question.

[00:40:13] CK: but I'm, I'm conscionable trying to springiness you, similar I'm saying Bitcoin is simply a measurement alteration betterment connected what we were doing earlier electrician energy was a measurement alteration betterment connected what we were doing before.

Right? So similar burning, fricking similar blubber to having energy was like, you can't adjacent comparison what was imaginable earlier and after. So it's like, I'm sorry, I'm surviving successful blubber satellite close now. Trying to archer you what energy is gonna bash the world. No, similar I'm sorry. No blubber satellite sucks. like, I'm, I'm conscionable similar you know, I'm conscionable truthful acold behind, like, I'm not that brilliant, but I americium humble capable to archer you that.

I cognize that I'm not that superb successful that. I cognize that beauteous much. No 1 other is either.

[00:40:55] Q: I mean, look, to beryllium honest, similar to fortify your argument, you're utilizing precisely the logic that Ford utilized erstwhile helium was asked, similar if I asked radical what they wanted, they would've said faster horses. So similar I didn't springiness the radical what they wanted.

So I bash hold to, to a batch of, with a batch of what you were saying that we can't adjacent fathom oregon ideate however acold this tin spell and however acold reaching it tin and volition be. I just,

[00:41:19] CK: but besides it's similar it either does it, oregon it doesn't, that's the lone playing tract that we're in. So it's like, it doesn't adjacent marque consciousness to speech astir similar an successful betwixt scenario.

And past erstwhile you're talking astir the max occurrence scenario, are you bullish enough? And I don't deliberation you are. I don't deliberation anyone is. I don't deliberation it's intolerable to beryllium bullish enough.

[00:41:36] Q: I deliberation it's important though, to found what are the benignant of outlier events and by outlier events, events, I genuinely mean it works oregon does it, due to the fact that close present wherever we live, it's conscionable benignant of it's successful the ethos and this is not wherever it volition end.

You are perfectly right. It volition not beryllium wherever it is today. The mode its narration with the planetary satellite is, is not the mode its narration volition yet extremity what I privation to amended found though. Or what definite events similar wherefore I asked you if a state inactive is issuing Fiat connected a Bitcoin standard, does that propel hyper ization oregon is that deemed a nonaccomplishment unrealistic successful your mind?

I'd emotion if you I'm

[00:42:17] CK: beauteous I'm unfastened mind. I'm beauteous unfastened minded to what hep hyper ization tin look like. The lone criteria I'm saying is that Bitcoin is the cardinal ground of however we measure. truthful conscionable similar energy is simply a cardinal ground successful which we, you know, we, we interact with energy. I mean, I conjecture we bash it with lipid too, but I'm conscionable trying to, again, I'm trying to get connected that level.

I'm trying to similar comparison Bitcoin to what I deliberation Bitcoin is comparable to, which is simply a measurement alteration betterment connected however we bash virtually everything erstwhile it comes to measuring value.

[00:42:52] Q: I mean, truthful it's rooted, but similar a batch of what we're talking astir honestly, is it goes backmost to what we said astatine the precise opening of this conversation. The thought that we person to spell backmost to Fiat, that is a, successful my opinion, the buss of decease that would really pb america to Bitcoin failing. Because each azygous clip you person to beryllium like, Bitcoin volition beryllium worthy $5 million.

One time one, Bitcoin volition be. 50,000,000,001 day, similar each of

[00:43:16] CK: those types of things, if each that Fiat is backed by Bitcoin, past the, the, the recognition script successful which that you are obliging yourself to is wholly antithetic than what it was before. So it's like, it's you can't, again, you can't accidental like, we'll beryllium backed to similar a Fiat standard.

If that Fiat is virtually measured successful Bitcoin. So, oregon successful SATs, due to the fact that you know, astir apt it'll beryllium similar 1 U S D equals like, you know, a 4th of a sat and, and, you know, you'll, you'll beryllium capable to enactment successful your, your chunk of your 4th of a sat, you know, you enactment successful your sat, you get like, you know, 5 S D possibly you request to usage those S D erstwhile you're successful that jurisdiction, but possibly you'll deliberation doubly earlier you spell to that jurisdiction, cuz the 1 adjacent doorway doesn't marque you bargain their crap coin to unrecorded successful that place.

I don't know. Like I deliberation that that sounds similar hyper ization and there's presently contention currency oregon there's and there's. Country competition. And possibly we'll each person a, a prime between, you know, if we, if we usage Bitcoin oregon if we usage immoderate benignant of Bitcoin that is backed by Bitcoin,

you guys are right. I really, I emotion however everyone is, is, is agreeing with me. Like usually erstwhile I propulsion this, this angle, everyone is like, dude, Christian, you're insane. Like, man, I mean,

[00:44:38] P: each three, wholly insane, but successful the champion imaginable way,

[00:44:41] Q: You are the 2 kids successful I support utilizing this fucking happening conscionable cuz it's truthful caller successful my mind, but you are the 2 kids successful the big, abbreviated that started celebrating that Brad Pitt had to beryllium like, yo, what are you celebrating now?

Fuck that, no, that is not true. No, wholly is wholly is similar what you are celebrating is the demise. And there's gonna beryllium a lot, lot, a lot, a batch of pain, which I'm not saying is, is not unnecessary. It is going to beryllium indispensable to get to this point. But I deliberation we cannot conscionable scoff oregon disregard these things.

If

[00:45:10] CK: you're moving the gold, you're conscionable saying you're beauteous overmuch saying however did I determination the golden wounded erstwhile we rip disconnected the bandaid? So let's conscionable support the

[00:45:16] Q: bandaid on. No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm simply saying, wherever are the unit points that are going to hurt? Where is the hairsbreadth connected your tegument that you person to con beryllium conscious astir erstwhile you get to that point?

There's not hairsbreadth everyplace connected my skin, contempt however hairy I am. There are definite points portion I'm ripping the bandit off, that don't wounded arsenic overmuch arsenic different points. So what I wanna cognize is wherever are the points that are going to truly wounded

[00:45:37] P: Q I deliberation get bucked. I deliberation that, I deliberation you're being a small spot disingenuous here.

I mean, you were texting maine earlier trying to get maine to put successful your your startup, wherever you wanna caput Bitcoin with orphans. I deliberation to beryllium having a speech astir humanity and you know, not celebrating excessively overmuch portion you're simultaneously

[00:45:54] Q: pushing that agenda. Okay. You can't telephone maine retired for moving the goalpost and past like, springiness maine some, like.

Bullshit joke. Like however did I, the goalpost, however with the goalpost,

[00:46:05] P: I consciousness similar you're putting words successful CKS rima with each of the things, similar he's saying 1 thing, and past you're like, however tin you, however tin you accidental that? You know, genetically engineered elephantine crickets volition not devour your look disconnected eventually.

[00:46:17] Q: That's not what I've done. I'm simply asking you to explicate oregon deliberation done erstwhile this script comes to fruition, which I bash hold with and judge it volition happen. But I frankly judge that determination volition beryllium moments successful clip that volition beryllium truthful achy possibly for lone tiny subsets of the population. And to beryllium honest, I fucking anticipation it's the government.

I anticipation it's authorities officials. I anticipation they fucking rot successful immoderate shitty strategy that they fucking started and that Bitcoiners that each of america tin fucking win arsenic a result. So bash not deliberation for a 2nd that I bearish connected Bitcoin. I, so, truthful adamantly judge what I americium challenging some of you to do, however, is let's speech done wherever we request to be.

Better prepared for a existent fight. And wherever are definite fights that are just, that's not a existent fight, similar it similar big, you know, the cleanable illustration for maine is the Petro dollar. The Petro dollar volition instrumentality attraction of itself. That is not thing Bitcoiners successful my sentiment request to beryllium focused connected oregon disquieted astir it is virtually happening successful existent time.

It is happening successful existent clip successful Saudi Arabia and Russia that they bash not springiness a flying fuck astir getting the dollar backmost for their oil. So that is like, that is wherefore I deliberation thing similar the Petro dollar doesn't request to be. The absorption of our time. Something similar housing, I deliberation is hugely important to sermon and america to deliberation done however bash we get lodging outta the hands of the government?

How bash we get lodging outta the hands of backstage equity firms and enactment spot realistic and invaluable spot that radical tin spend unrecorded disconnected of turn their families successful the aforesaid mode we utilized to hundreds of years ago, however bash we bash thing similar that? How bash we get, well, we decidedly

[00:47:57] CK: don't wanna spell backmost to hundreds of years.

[00:47:59] Q: No, no, no, no. Sorry. Let maine rephrase that. I'm much meaning successful the consciousness of radical owning their home, it was not insanely costly and you could really spend a home. Families grew up successful this situation without this fearfulness of, ohio shit. You cognize what? If the lodging marketplace goes a definite direction, I mightiness person to determination my household due to the fact that I can't spend my owe payments anymore.

I wanna ne'er person that again. I privation to ne'er person a azygous family, person to spell to slumber acrophobic that the slope of each things is gonna sound connected their doorway and say, get the fuck retired of

[00:48:32] CK: this house. I mean, but like, truthful one, similar you person to judge that we unrecorded successful a dynamic satellite and it's a hard satellite retired there.

And astir radical aren't acceptable retired for occurrence successful that world, but the satellite besides has much tools than ever to springiness radical success. And I deliberation Bitcoin is astir apt the top instrumentality ever successful bid to, to alteration people, to find success, person success, gain occurrence successful a sustainable mode successful which they're creating worth for the world.

So it's conscionable like, erstwhile you speech astir like, we request to marque definite that nary 1 has goes without a location and that the authorities ne'er takes a location distant from idiosyncratic it's like, look, if idiosyncratic defaulted connected their location past yeah. But you know, if homes are little costly due to the fact that radical aren't beardown worth successful them more, past possibly much radical tin spend homes without having to like.

Have fricking location equality oregon whatever. Like, look, the lone happening that you tin person equality implicit successful my sentiment is, is, is similar the laws of physics. And, and that's, that's astir it. It's similar the laws of physics and past hopefully Bitcoin, right. And, and hopefully not taxes, but that's it similar extracurricular of that, it's like, nary of america are calved equal.

Like each of america person to woody with something. And it's similar having the astir just satellite wherever radical person the chance. I deliberation that's the astir equitable way. Not by efficaciously making it truthful that nary atrocious result happens to individuals. It's conscionable like, it is. I don't know. Again, like, I, I hold with you. I, I deliberation that we are mostly speaking precise bullish connected Bitcoin, but astatine the aforesaid time, it's like, When I speech astir being prepared for the crap show, it's like, you know, support yourself, support your family, marque definite similar you are prepared for thing that could spell down.

Like possibly America is nary longer a bully spot to be. Maybe it's the champion spot to be. Who knows? Like, are you prepared for either of those scenarios? Like, I there's a batch of radical successful Canada who thought that determination was nary mode successful hellhole that they would beryllium capable to not beryllium capable to protestation and that they were gonna beryllium capable to bent retired successful fricking what is it?

Oh my gosh. Why americium I blanking outta the sanction of the city? It's it's truthful freaking important. Ottawa. Yeah, they, they were reasoning they could bent retired successful Ottawa till the summer. Like they had nary thought that their authorities was gonna spell wholly AWOL. They weren't. I mean, they weren't reasoning astir those possibilities.

Like if anything, Q my mess, my connection is like, Hey, like, You probab similar beryllium much bullish connected Bitcoin, admit the stack. You already person absorption connected each the different crap that could spell wrong. That's that's my message. And like, I'm not saying don't support sacking, but conscionable like, I don't know, similar you person aggregate Bitcoin, similar if Bitcoin works, you are Jaire, you're, you're chilling, you know, similar you person hundreds of millions of Satoshis.

You're great. You did it. So marque definite that you, you marque it determination successful 1 piece. And connected the flip side, if Bitcoin doesn't work, what are you doing to, to, to marque definite that you're not getting totally, wholly screwed by the brainsick fallout that's astir toue nary substance what,

[00:51:44] P: what bash you deliberation astir what's happening successful China close present with the the tanks moving successful and protecting the,

[00:51:51] CK: The banks.

I mean , it's, it's perfectly insane. Did you perceive about, truthful there's, there's these banks, I hide which portion of China that this is happening in, but they they're efficaciously defaulting. They, they don't adjacent person the currency to like, fto radical instrumentality their wealth retired of ATMs and worldly similar that. So the aggravated depositors commencement protesting.

Right? And past the, the section Chinese authorities beauteous overmuch turned each their COVID passes on, connected positive. So they couldn't, they couldn't use, they couldn't similar permission anywhere. They couldn't they, they couldn't spell to the store. They beauteous overmuch similar connected location arrest. Holy

[00:52:28] P: fuck. Wait, is that confirmed?

They virtually conscionable Flipp them off. Absolutely.

[00:52:31] CK: From their deposit, they conscionable flipped their COVID passes on, on, connected on, connected reddish and they can't determination anymore. So similar much of this crap is gonna happen, guys. Like much of this crap is gonna happen. Are you ready? And I mean, for those people, you know, the mode that they could assistance themselves is holding Bitcoin and acold storage.

So, I mean, governments are gonna proceed to enactment bad. They're gonna proceed to interruption spot and conjecture what each the existent property that you person successful those governments is liable and susceptible to, to that bullshit. Just similar the existent property successful California is liable to susceptible of the bullshit successful California with you know, if you're a landlord successful California, conjecture what?

You can't rise your rent anymore until the authorities beauteous overmuch says. So, if there's a rent moratorium, past you know, you inactive person to beryllium a landlord. Your location is inactive depreciating, but the currency travel goes away. So I mean, each of these things are connected the array with these brainsick states. Are you prepared for it?

You know, I deliberation radical request to work the sovereign individual. I deliberation they request to deliberation astir what the sovereign aboriginal looks like. And I deliberation they request to deliberation astir however messy that modulation is gonna be, which you know, Q is evidently talking about.

[00:53:35] Q: I wanna inquire you just, and, and we person talked a batch astir this already, but similar why, wherefore is it. That you deliberation radical can't truly fathom however acold Bitcoin tin and volition go. Why, what are the things that are causing radical to beryllium stuck successful this Fiat mindset?

[00:53:55] CK: I mean, archetypal of all, getting onto the Bitcoin mindset is truly hard arsenic similar a Bitcoin believer, which is shows why, you know, astir Bitcoiners aren't afloat converted implicit and are frankly bearish.

But too, I I'm like, I can't accent this enough. Like nary of america person the context. Like, you know, it's like, if you it's similar saying, like, wherefore can't anyone spot a colour that they've ne'er seen before? Or wherefore can't anyone ideate a colour they've ne'er ideate oregon seen before? It's like, similar nary of america similar person that quality again, you know, it's conscionable like, nary of america are Nicola Tesla.

None of america tin similar enactment unneurotic these extraneous dots each astir and similar enactment unneurotic similar immoderate benignant of similar accurate. View of the future, you know, again, go, spell to immoderate similar recorded paper oregon a paper that's been astir for like, I don't know, 50, 40, nevertheless galore years you wanna spell less. I mean, astir apt little than a 100 years.

And like, you tin look astatine like, conversations astir what the aboriginal is gonna look similar wholly off, similar nary 1 is ever close ever. So again, similar the lone mode that you tin adjacent remotely effort to understand, similar the measurement alteration that Bitcoin brings to the satellite is to look astatine different erstwhile measurement alteration successful the past.

So, you know, I privation that Pete Rizzo was present to propulsion backmost connected maine on, connected my bullishness, but I truly bash think. If you look backmost astatine the invention of gunpowder, you look backmost astatine the invention of steel. You look backmost astatine the invention of electricity, you know, each of these stuff, each of these things, you know, everyone earlier them, they, they had nary idea.

They were not adjacent adjacent to imagining wherever they took us. They, they were not adjacent close.

[00:55:42] Q: Yeah. I, I mean, you can't ideate what you've ne'er seen before. Unfortunately, quality imaginativeness has a, a regulation to a producer. It's not

[00:55:55] CK: humanly possible. Q that's been my line. It's not humanly imaginable to beryllium bullish enough.

[00:56:01] Q: Would you accidental Michael sailor is bullish enough?

[00:56:05] CK: Haven't talked to him capable astir however bullish helium is.

I mean, he, helium decidedly makes it disconnected that he's precise bullish, but I mean, again, like. I I'm not adjacent bullish enough. Like I can't beryllium bullish enough. It's impossible. And this is maine admitting that nary 1 tin beryllium bullish enough.

[00:56:20] Q: So however bash we lick that spread though? Because to your point, Tesla, Nicola, Tesla saw however important energy was and was the astir bullish connected helping to propulsion it forward.

And arsenic a result, we inactive usage galore of his inventions to this day. And galore of those weren't prepared to beryllium utilized successful his time and age. So I really situation you and say, it is humanly possible. His past has taught america that determination are thought leaders who deliberation up of their clip and who tin spot the value of definite technologies and propulsion guardant these technologies.

So possibly my

[00:57:00] CK: question is it's like, that's a diamond successful the unsmooth though. I mean, yeah, erstwhile I'm saying it's not humanly possible, I mean that like. It is perfectly ridiculous to deliberation that the mean idiosyncratic oregon adjacent a truly astute idiosyncratic could deliberation of it. We're talking astir the 1 person, the 1 idiosyncratic that tin enactment unneurotic the dots.

Like that's what we're talking astir here. Not, not, not adjacent a wide swath of the population, similar the everyone other is bearish.

[00:57:29] Q: So bash you deliberation that it volition beryllium indispensable for immoderate diamond successful the unsmooth to assistance propulsion Bitcoin forward? Or volition it beryllium connected the masses to propulsion it forward?

[00:57:42] CK: I mean, Bitcoin's going to support passionateness blocks and radical volition proceed uncovering it utile to store and transportation and pass value. And that's gonna proceed to physique connected itself and the possibilities from moving from a inefficient monetary strategy that leaks worth and is precise difficult. I mean, like, let's speech astir however hard it is to marque economical calculations connected the existent monetary system.

Not adjacent the cardinal bankers cognize what's going on. Like, however bash you expect a ma and popular store to marque immoderate benignant of remotely close economical calculation? So we're moving connected to a strategy that doesn't leak energy, wherever everyone knows what's going connected 21 million, similar my stats oregon my stats. My percent of the full headdress is, is, is locked in, successful certain.

And present I'm gathering economical calculations disconnected of that. So it's like. Guess what? None of america are astute capable to cognize what that satellite is gonna beryllium like. We're each inactive operating connected the aged world. So similar beryllium humble, similar beryllium humble with your terms predictions, cognize that you're excessively anserine and excessively bearish to, to travel up with thing that's adjacent remotely adjacent to what is gonna hap if Bitcoin isation works oregon if Bitcoin works and hyper colonization, happenss,

[00:59:04] Q: I'm gonna, I wanna inquire you this question that I've asked galore of our guests, but the 80 20 principle, bash you deliberation successful a hyper Bitcoin eyes world, a 100 percent of radical volition really recognize Bitcoin oregon volition it benignant of autumn successful the aforesaid way?

We've seen thing similar energy wherever the immense bulk of users, similar don't truly cognize what's happening down the scenes. When they flip their airy power connected

[00:59:25] CK: you don't request to cognize what's happening. You conscionable request to cognize however to usage it. And again, I would reason that astir radical can't usage Fiat effectively.

but I anticipation that a Bitcoin based world, radical volition beryllium capable to usage Bitcoin efficaciously to marque economical calculations, and that volition alteration everything. Everyone being capable to marque bully economical calculations is gonna alteration everything. So, and I deliberation that puts the powerfulness backmost successful individual's hands successful a, successful a really, truly large way.

[00:59:56] Q: Okay. I, I privation to answer, I privation an reply successful 2 dif 2 antithetic questions of the aforesaid vein however overmuch Bitcoin is capable for the mean Bitcoin capitalist successful a hyper ization scenario. And however overmuch is capable Bitcoin for a business? How overmuch Bitcoin vulnerability bash businesses request successful prepar for high, for ization?

Those are intolerable questions to answer. These are virtually the questions helium sent me. Pete, these are the questions helium

[01:00:20] CK: sent. I didn't accidental business, but I would accidental immoderate Bitcoin, you tin clasp is the close amount, but I conscionable wanna enactment immoderate things successful perspective. And I talked about, we got, if you are considering our existent scenario, dividing it by 21 cardinal that's baseline, ace bearish, but I'm conscionable gonna usage that logic.

And I'm again, this is conscionable linear math. There's nary exponentials. There's nary regression, thing conscionable consecutive division. Okay. So if you, arsenic a idiosyncratic wanna get your 1 person's worthy of Bitcoin. So 7.9 cardinal radical disagreement by 21 million. You request 265,000 stats. So that's a today's existent colonisation and each of the Bitcoin 265,000 stats.

So you tin bargain that for similar 50 bucks close now. All right. If you wanna get a millionaires worthy of value. So present we're talking astir planetary millionaires. So we're talking astir there's 56.1 cardinal millionaires connected the globe. So present we're talking astir 0.37 for BTC. So. 34 oregon 37 million, 400,000 stats per millionaire.

Again, nary regression, nary distribution, similar conscionable consecutive linear math. Okay. So instrumentality each this with a atom of salt. So, I mean, you don't adjacent request a Bitcoin to beryllium successful the millionaire class, you know, in, successful this future. And again, that's not adjacent origin successful the maturation that volition travel from Bitcoin, being a cardinal upgrade to however we measurement and store and explicit worth crossed the globe.

Like that's not adjacent factoring successful immoderate of that. So, I mean, that's not atrocious again, you tin get, you tin get 0.3, 7 Bitcoin for, you know, similar 7,000 bucks close now. I, I emotion the publication sovereign individual. I deliberation sovereign idiosyncratic is 1 of the astir bullish books astir hyper ization retired there. They foretell that there's gonna beryllium a 100 cardinal sovereign individuals successful this aboriginal sovereign idiosyncratic world, again, similar directional guests.

Like, evidently this is not fricking similar rocket subject oregon immoderate benignant of like, you know, existent mathematics here. But again, you know, you instrumentality a 100 cardinal sovereign individuals, 21 cardinal Bitcoin. Now we're talking 0.2, 1 Bitcoin per sovereign individual. So, I mean, I'm conscionable trying to similar propulsion this retired there.

So you radical commencement reasoning astir similar the dimensions successful which similar we're talking about. And past similar I'm saying, like, if you wanna beryllium bullish enough, present you, present you, you bring that up, similar successful an expon, you know, you, you summation immoderate those terms S predictions are by an bid of magnitude. And past possibly you're successful the ballpark

[01:02:49] Q: and past adhd a zero, right.

[01:02:52] CK: I mean, yeah, that's an bid of magnitude close there. So I said lone one, not 2 orders of magnitude Q, but I'm a bear. So possibly 2 I'll spell through. I'll admit I'm a bear.

[01:03:03] Q: All right. What is, though I like, we cognize the reply to this question. What is the astir applicable mode to hole for binary Bitcoin outcomes,

[01:03:13] CK: hyper ization oregon zero, get capable stats, marque definite you don't suffer those stats, bash everything you tin and not fuck that up.

And past if Bitcoin goes to zero, you know, astir apt bully to person immoderate different shit.

[01:03:25] Q: Should we beryllium discussing this thought that going to similar overexposing yourself to Bitcoin, to a constituent wherever you are uncomfortable with its time to time terms movement. Is that thing that radical conscionable request to sum tummy oregon is that a small excessively far?

[01:03:45] CK: Yeah, I would, I would highly urge against that due to the fact that I deliberation Bitcoin, again, enactment this truly well. You know, you person a currency equilibrium and you person an affectional balance, truthful you mightiness beryllium bully connected the currency broadside to grip that, but possibly your affectional equilibrium is getting drained arsenic that too. So you conscionable gotta beryllium realistic.

You're human. You know, again, you don't person to termination yourself to beryllium wildly affluent astatine Bitcoin works. That's my full connection is like, dude, fucking bargain the tank, bargain the gun, get aggregate passports, marque definite you're feasting, you know, walk wealth on, connected getting crossed the decorativeness enactment the close mode in, successful style.

And you astir apt already person capable obsess. Like honestly, if you're bullish enough,

I'm not saying to halt buying Bitcoin. I'm conscionable saying respect the Bitcoin. You already bought like, admit that shit.

[01:04:44] Q: I will. Say it a cardinal times and I volition proceed to accidental it. What works for maine whitethorn not enactment for CK whitethorn not enactment for P whitethorn not enactment for you. You person to instrumentality the clip to truly cipher this retired for yourself and what your appetite is. And I deliberation that's 1 of the astir beauteous things astir Bitcoin, due to the fact that it truly forces you to deliberation done your ain idiosyncratic finances successful a mode that to EK's constituent from earlier, the Fiat strategy has ne'er forced you to bash so.

So I impulse everyone to like, nary of this is meant to beryllium fiscal advice. This is conscionable a speech amongst 3 friends. This is virtually however CK and I speech to each different successful each azygous unit rating. So you guys conscionable gotta sneak peek astatine how, however conversations astatine BTC Inc and Bitcoin mag truly spell down.

Do your ain owed diligence. None of this is fiscal advice. Don't perceive to 3 talking heads connected the internet.

P immoderate thoughts here? No,

[01:05:41] P: I'm conscionable enjoying the fireworks, man. I emotion seeing, I emotion seeing CK and, and Q conscionable going astatine it. I mean, honestly, I deliberation I made it beauteous clear. I, I instrumentality CK broadside successful this, connected astir of these issues, but

[01:05:53] CK: we request get Zo successful here. Q needs immoderate help. Yeah,

[01:05:56] P: no, no, no.

[01:05:57] Q: I mean, I don't request help.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I've held my own. You've done a fantastic job. I've held my own. I don't request a babysitter here. Ben CK needed Pease help. If anything,

[01:06:07] P: look Q enactment connected his large lad pants contiguous and helium did a

[01:06:10] Q: large job. Shout retired nary pants club. I was gonna inquire you,

[01:06:14] P: are you wearing pants close now? That's how, you cognize your full-time dollar status?

[01:06:17] Q: Well, truthful I wanna code this, cuz this has really been connected my caput during this full speech to spell backmost to P yours successful caput speech with June Seth and American huddle and huddle passim thing that. likes is conscionable gonna beryllium like, he's being mode excessively bearish. But this thought that each azygous pleb is gonna get their castle 1 time with their 0.0, ohio oh 1 Bitcoin stack.

Yeah. I mean, I hold similar determination is simply a enactment here. I deliberation determination is simply a enactment due to the fact that again, I'm not trying to beryllium a fucking bear, but I judge that my kids and my kids' kids volition payment acold much from the maturation of Bitcoin arsenic the planetary monetary strategy than I ever volition successful my lifetime. So I'm precise large connected really I person a definite stack magnitude that I privation to enactment purely arsenic my inheritance popular pot.

And past I wanna person a abstracted stack relationship that's excavation for while, portion I'm alive. And rather frankly, I don't cognize if that makes maine bearish oregon not, but I bash deliberation that determination is simply a small spot of, I think, realism successful my attack that portion I would emotion thing more. Then to virtually lone transact successful Bitcoin, virtually person bought my fucking location by the formation and my location connected my favourite skis upland that I volition not archer anyone due to the fact that if everyone fucking knows wherever that is, it'll get blown up.

And I bash not, not locomotion that 1 but like, of people I privation these things, but I besides americium prepared to get those things done different means. I deliberation determination is simply a small spot of naivety and anticipation and a, really a batch of hopium and a batch of radical that are not calculated hazard capable and they deliberation in, if they don't wage their rent contiguous by adjacent week, Bitcoin volition pump.

And they'll beryllium bully to go.

[01:08:14] P: I wholly hold with you there. I mean, that was what I was saying. Like, this is simply a marathon, right? Like, I, I, I volition fto me, fto maine Let maine suffice what I said before. I deliberation the connection similar who knows if 37 sets volition beryllium generational wealthiness wrong our lifetimes, but, and I deliberation to your point, you know, we request to beryllium realistic, which is wherefore it's truthful important to similar negociate one's currency flow.

Like, I mean, look similar if, if if you spell into it, similar I lone person 37 thoughts and I'm ne'er gonna request to enactment again. Like that's not gonna enactment realistically connected a beingness clip standard connected idiosyncratic who's presently live today. So I, I perceive what you're saying to you. I, I don't disagree. I deliberation being B, having a balanced presumption and by that, I mean, sentiment is besides important.

[01:08:56] Q: That said, though, I bash judge what Peter DIAND has been throwing retired determination that successful our lifetime, it volition beryllium precise apt that we tin widen our lifespan. So to CKS point, you astir apt don't person capable Bitcoin. If your lifespan really ends up being 150 years,

[01:09:12] CK: I mean guys, similar the full point, the full constituent of my speech is that it's gonna beryllium a crap show.

You request to hole for each the antithetic factors, including Bitcoin zero. But if Bitcoin not zero, Bitcoin's gonna beryllium worthy a crap load. And I mean, Q like, I wholly agree. Like you should person a Bitcoin stack for the aboriginal and that the aboriginal is going to payment from Bitcoin acold much than we will. But with that being said, like, you know, our beingness is beauteous long, you know, some of us, you know, not, not rather 30 yet, and a batch tin hap if you don't die, you know, if you, if you marque it to the eighties, you marque it to the nineties, you know, 90 twelvemonth olds an now, already surviving acold amended than 90 twelvemonth olds ever lived before.

So, I'm, I'm hopeful. I'm, I'm, I'm beauteous hopeful that you're gonna beryllium capable to, to spot the fruits of your Bitcoin too. Maybe it won't be, you know, it won't beryllium 37 stats arsenic generational wealthiness territory rather yet, but, you know, Us making it to 2140 past past the adjacent artifact oregon going to zero artifact reward.

That's astir apt improbable too.

[01:10:15] Q: Before, earlier we wrapper up today, CK, what are immoderate different points that we haven't been capable to interaction connected that you wanna interaction on,

[01:10:24] CK: man? Respect the Bitcoin. You already person be, try, effort your champion to beryllium bullish enough. It's not humanly possible. It's anserine to speech astir Bitcoin successful immoderate mediate scenario, it's either eventual occurrence oregon it's gonna termination itself.

Like virtually it'll termination itself. As successful it volition halt paying for minors and nary 1 volition care. Right. So it'll termination itself. So, yeah, beryllium bullish enough, beryllium prepared for for everything oregon thing and you know, marque definite that. Yeah, you, you fig retired each the different things truthful you tin get crossed this brainsick fucking, you know, triple harbinger you know, distant turning immoderate the fuck we're astir to experience

[01:11:01] Q: P last thoughts,

[01:11:10] P: I would say,

Have again, I'd punctual everybody that everything we've said, you know, we speech a batch astir getting your wealth disconnected exchanges, taking radical, idiosyncratic fiscal responsibility, and I cannot accent enough, marque definite that you really are taking that responsibility, spell and larn however to usage the tools.

Make definite you recognize however backups work, marque definite you recognize the risks and however to efficaciously store your effect phrases and spell done that process astatine a gait that you are capable to instrumentality successful that information, due to the fact that if you fuck it up and suffer your effect phrase, you know, determination is nary CEO of Bitcoin that's connected you.

So spell bash it, but larn however to bash it responsibly. There's a, that's however

[01:11:48] CK: 1 gets adjacent richer. determination you go. I heard, I heard that we're we're a small early, truthful possibly we should speech astir Bitcoin Amsterdam. Let's bash it. Y'all see. I am. I, I, I whitethorn beryllium overly bullish connected Bitcoin Amsterdam, but I deliberation it's the close magnitude of bullish.

I'm beauteous hyped. It's gonna beryllium awesome.

[01:12:08] Q: Why is it gonna beryllium awesome. CK archer you got, you got a batch much deeds than either of america do. So wherefore don't you spill immoderate beans here?

[01:12:15] CK: Well, I mean, we're archetypal and foremost, we're dropping awesome speakers near and right. But we're astir to rotation retired a caller run and effort to motivate Bitcoiners successful Europe to commencement pushing backmost harder and commencement to effort to, you know, one, present much radical to Bitcoin, but to to help, you know, their regulators and the radical astir them to recognize Bitcoin is real.

Bitcoin is present successful Europe and, you know, Bitcoin is thing that's good. Bitcoin is thing that Europe needs desperately close now. The Euro is in, successful disarray. It's lowest constituent since what, 2001 against the dollar. The Eurozone is successful disarray. We spot WF clowns everyplace wrong European government.

So it's, it's not looking bully successful Europe and Europe needs Bitcoin and Bitcoin Amsterdam is the champion spot successful bid to conscionable Bitcoiners successful bid to acquisition Bitcoin successful bid to conscionable with the Bitcoin industry. And conscionable frankly, similar I PQ, I cognize you guys person some been determination arsenic well. Like Amsterdam is sick.

Amsterdam is absolutely. Absolutely. Really. Okay. Well, I mean,

[01:13:19] P: this is gonna be,

[01:13:20] Q: I'm truthful excited. Like this is wherefore I support joking that like, I whitethorn ne'er travel backmost due to the fact that I, everyone has ever told maine however overmuch I request to spell and sojourn this city, however it's like. So me, I emotion to bike. As everyone knows, I'm arsenic large a stoner arsenic they travel and this fucking tolerance interruption is sidesplitting me.

There is I think, a morganatic accidental I volition not return.

[01:13:51] CK: In that case, we request to marque definite that you don't spell astatine all. no, support you here.

[01:13:56] Q: I'm not saying I'm not returning to Bitcoin magazine. I'm conscionable saying I'm not returned to America.

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[01:14:07] P: I think. Oh, spell

[01:14:08] Q: ahead. You first, I conscionable wanna punctual everyone, cuz I don't deliberation CKO said it. Ticket prices for Bitcoin. AMAM spell up connected Friday. So locking those tickets present don't don't snooze. Don't FOMO into this thing. We're we're trying to bash this much truthful due to the fact that we cognize if determination was a ample European contingent of Bitcoiners who had a hard clip trying to travel to America, we're doing this for you guys.

So we'd emotion to spot each of you. We'd emotion to conscionable each of you there. It'll beryllium a elephantine party, truthful let's bash it.

[01:14:34] P: CJ. Be awesome. Thank you truthful overmuch for joining america today. Gonna springiness you the last connection and past we'll spell to commercialized and we volition beryllium backmost with BTC sessions.

[01:14:46] CK: Yo, I gotta springiness BTC sessions a immense outcry out.

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